Pappas & Diederich • Improvisers • Musical Satirists
John Pappas
& Jim Diederich
• 1970 - 1974 •
4 years of improv in the Bay Area
“Pappas and Diederich are a little like The Smothers Brothers, only different.” ~ Santa Cruz Sentinel • 1978
So true! And the reason we were different is because we took turns being Tommy. ~JP
Pappas & Diederich: In the Running
May 1980 · Chic magazine • Edward Kovach
Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and Costello, Burns and Allen, Pappas and Diederich… Pappas and Diederich? You’ve never heard of them, right? Neither frenetic, crazies or prop lunatics, they are rather a low-key duo – a patch of calm water in the rolling sea of stand-up comedy.
Actually, John Pappas and Jim Diederich don’t even tell jokes. Their slow building, quasi-musical act seems mostly offhand, and they constantly risk entering Comedy Hell by utilizing dangerously long pauses and “takes”.
Like the classic comedy teams before them, their comedy flows from extreme juxtaposition. Pappas is tall and muscular, with a classical Greek stature; Diederich on the other hand is short and stocky, squinting behind granny glasses, like a fussbudgety CPA with a dippy haircut. Pappas, who handles the singing and impressions (such as a would be Mick Jagger rendering of “Take My Wife, Please”) maintains a sensual street punk attitude. Accompanying him on guitar Diederich calmly sports a cynical, cerebral façade as the duo sums up today’s pop music in a hilarious parody, “It Was Easy to Write This Song”.
The roles they play on stage aren’t that far removed from their real life experiences. Growing up on the streets of Oakland, California, Pappas emulated motorcycle toughs and was booted out of school. “John would have been a juvenile delinquent, but by the time he got to high school, he was too old, Diederich says. Pappas was eventually placed in a program in which the curriculum consisted of smoking, reading the newspaper and drinking wine – and he made A’s. “At graduation one guy got sick on heroin and had to run off the stage,“ Pappas recalls.
Diederich’s upbringing was slightly different. “I went to Catholic school for 12 years. Guys got sick at my graduation too – too much oatmeal,” he states.
Pappas and Diederich first met at a San Francisco improvisational workshop in the early 70s. Years later in Los Angeles two women with whom they had been performing quit just prior to a nightclub booking. Unprepared but determined, they took the stage as Pappas and Diederich, and they managed to get laughs. Working in tandem, they’ve gotten laughs ever since and have avoided the heavy rejection that embitters many a comedian. “Sometimes the audience laughs at one of us and not the other,” Pappas concedes. “But you have to realize that if they don’t like you, it doesn’t mean that as a human being you’re totally screwed. “
With comedy, booming and show business there’s a ton of competition shticking around, talking loud and fast , vying for the precious agents and managers who lead hopefuls to the big money. Pappas and Diederich are negotiating through the funnyman flotsam and maintaining and even keel. They’re continuously honing their act, working toward what Pappas claims is a milestone for up-and-coming comics: “a spot on the Tonight show is the ultimate.”
Quick Takes
Our Opening
Always got a laugh
To audience: "Ok just curious, um how many of you remember the 60s. (Applause) Wow. Alright! A lot of you. (Diederich would comment to me under his breath) I'd say to him "Really") Ok, um we're not bragging here but how many of you remember the rock band Moby Grape? (Hoots and Yeahs!) PAUSE: Ok, we're not bragging about this but (long pause) we met the drummer. (Laughter sometimes major laughter!)
Favorite Rooms
HCZ & The Other Cafe
The Holy City Zoo (Always a good house with many friends)
The Other Cafe was always fun because from the stage you could wave to the passengers on the N. Judah.
Joke I wish i wrote
Richard Lewis
"You facqua?" ~Richard Lewis
Craziest night of comedy
Prompt: One that did not land you in jail, but perhaps should have
Boarding House
David Allen
David Allen liked us after a casual audition in the basement of The Boarding House and booked us to open for John Kay. (lead singer of Steppenwolf) David brought us back to open for a new artist named Diane Diamond.
Country Store • Sunnyvale
Following Brownie
We followed A.Whitney Brown and his dog.
WC Fields was right!
Best Impresario
Bill Graham
He paved the way for music in the BayArea and throughout the world and as a teenager I was a regular at the Fillmore. On Tuesday night jams at The Carousel Ballroom for local bands (like Full Moon, with bassist Jose Simon, and Sunday nights for the end of the week you could almost always find me there. And the fact that I was to meet and get autographs from Noel Redding and Jimi Hendrix their first night gigging of The Experience at the original Fillmore.
Best Comedy Publication
Club Owners
Anne & Jon Fox
Anne and Jon Fox liked us.
Enough to bump us from openers to headliners in less than 6 months in 1978-79.
We played at the Punchline one time when Graham was in the house. I was a bit nervous since Mr. Graham and I had a few past altercations and been thrown out of his music venues a couple times. You know teenagers can be so silly! The last time I saw Bill Graham I was walking past him where he was seated with a lovely young lady and he shook my hand and said “Nice set!” I knew he had recognized me.
OTHER BAY AREA GIGS / EVENTS OF NOTE
Back to Back Bookings
Short commute between the two clubs
Wedding Guests
June 4, 1978
Legend for Legends
@ The Old Sphaghetti Factory